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Forum: VOW Development & Design
Thread: True or False: Traditional Wrestlers are WEAK
Post by: Captain Stupendous(38517)
2005-09-24 02:19:44
The reason I need feedback is because I'm thinking about replaying as a trad after I retire my current wrestler.

Post by: BubbaG(33460)
2005-09-24 03:25:17
I would disagree. I have had great success with my Trad, other than Stiff Neck it has been the most successful style for me.
Post by: FloriZeus(7923)
2005-09-24 08:04:34
Post by: Captain Stupendous(38517)
2005-09-24 11:37:38
Yes, I am sure that one can have great success with a traditional wrestler, but how exactly does the benefit of an increased pin chance outweigh the trad's overall lower stat max?

Don't get me wrong. Traditional is most likely going to be my style of choice for my next wrestler, but this slightly negative perception of trads with regard to their stats needs to be addressed.
Post by: m_carta(37500)
2005-09-24 16:31:21
Considering Bubba's latest wrestler is packing uber damage bonus, I don't think his man's fighting style would be relevant at this point.
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-09-24 16:55:43
Trads can be strong IF you can use them correctly. From what I've seen, a lot of people that complain that Trads are weak fail to realise that overall Trads are (in my opinion) the best singles wrestlers!

Especially with a damage bonus, Trads are even better in singles (for quick wins).

Higher damage + increased pin chance + decent (not exceptional) sub stat = solid singles wrestler.
Post by: gruchul(66928)
2005-09-24 22:42:36
I agree with LK. Trads are very specialist. They were made for singles. Prepare to fail if you go charging into the non-singles matches, but if you stick with singles matches, you will be ok. Plus trads have great upset ability with the bonus. That's always fun.
Post by: BubbaG(33460)
2005-09-25 01:40:23
Well considering that Cap is talking about using him as his next style after he retires, he will have a damage bonus also. So yes my comments should be taken with a grain of salt but not considered irrelevant.
Post by: Captain Stupendous(38517)
2005-09-25 15:22:21
Thanks everyone, for all your feedback. I only do singles anyway so it looks like trad is the way to go for me.

In a few months, the Stupendousness shall begin anew.
Post by: lazy(27024)
2005-09-26 06:46:52
The reason trads are bad is because during LAW most people send LMS's during LAW its tough, but later its easier. Also they aren't good in e-feds because you can get booked in Cages.
Post by: m_carta(37500)
2005-09-26 09:02:41
So don't fight LMS matches while you're in LAW.
Post by: lazy(27024)
2005-09-26 10:49:48
Exactly my point carta...
Post by: powerbomb masscre(127737)
2005-09-26 14:14:01
im trad with 221exp and i have won 26 lms and lost 13 so that 50% of wining chance(for me)
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-09-26 16:11:44
actually, it's 66% :)
Post by: mr unknown man(129722)
2005-09-26 17:34:26
i play trad and all my stats are max except for aerial and i already won 19 and lose 7..12 LMS wins,3 singles,1 sub,2 knockout,1 cage...

i lose 7 which are 4 LMS,2 lose singles and 1 knockout
trad style of play is great..i made Full Nelson as special attack
Post by: mr unknown man(129722)
2005-09-26 17:35:51
i fight LMS when i'm a law and won 12 and loss 4
Post by: lazy(27024)
2005-09-27 05:18:49
Are you even a trad? Trads should only fight horrible guys or other trads in LMS's
Post by: The Sniper(27754)
2005-09-27 05:46:03
If you can figure out how the game works you can many any charatcer good. Simple realisaitions over what is popular belief and what is the actual case will help you alot. So making up your own mind from your experience is your best bet :)
Post by: Dinkus_Warrior(50201)
2005-09-27 15:52:08
I will say that trads are not weak period, damage bonus or no damage bonus, singles or non-singles...as long as you use the strategy called nubious bashious - aka n00b bashing :D
Post by: dagnarus(129527)
2005-09-27 15:59:08
-Lazy.....i am a trad,if u don't believe search for my wrestler Power_man_guy_dude(73826)
Post by: ocelot(76)
2005-09-28 21:44:46
I modeled the vow trad after HHH. All the stats are even(except arial) Has high con than other styles (not sure if this is still true) and peter put it to have a Higher chance of pinning. With high powered moves it should be able to last long enough to pin the opponent. Most people dont like it because they usually take high damage but thats what a trad is all about.
Post by: Captain Stupendous(38517)
2005-09-30 03:29:48
Nah, I just checked. It would have been nice to have extra consciousness. Then trad wrestlers would have more incentive to get into non-singles matches. Not that it matters too much to me anyway, as I'm going trad no matter what. :p

Data below is accurate as of 09/29/05:

tajiri_._tarantula(11016): Technical
Consciousness = 133
Experience = 6064

ChrisBenoit(4949): Traditional
Consciousness = 129
Experience = 6001
Post by: Captain Stupendous(38517)
2005-09-30 03:42:13
Here's a better comparison than the last one, as I just realized that ChrisBenoit(4949) was likely injured. Clearly, there no longer is an advantage in Con for Traditional wrestlers.

Data is accurate as of 09/29/05:

Dr. Nick(13408): Technical
Con = 131
Exp = 5681

Bubba Gump(10671): Traditional
Con = 131
Exp = 5611

ocelot(2): Technical
Con = 130
Exp = 5556
Post by: BubbaG(33460)
2005-09-30 06:48:06
Damn!!!! Why did I Trad as my "LAST" style!!!
Post by: Juvented(147461)
2006-01-09 03:57:13
Techs are best for me i know how to use them right and all that crap but trads are also good but id say dont use it if you wanna fight anything other then singles
Post by: Juvented(147461)
2006-01-09 03:58:11
Techs are best for me i know how to use them right and all that crap but trads are also good but id say dont use it if you wanna fight anything other then singles
Post by: Juvented(147461)
2006-01-09 03:58:24
oohps double post
Post by: Limerick(56750)
2006-01-11 04:58:09
Why does this stupid n00b keep resurrecting dead posts?
Post by: Loincloth Legend(122263)
2006-02-04 11:12:31
Ive just started using a trad charachter (more ot of principle than anything) but the thing ive found is, though you all say that its better to fight Singles matches throughout, they dont pay well. And as sub and pin moves are the most expensive on the game it takes longer to save for moves. Therefor harder to win the further you progress
How about moves being slightly cheaper or hitting min at different times for different wrestler types
I.E: PG hits min on strength moves earlier, trad hits min for pin moves earlier etc..

Means there would be more reward for trying different styles based on your style preferance?
(Just a thought)
Post by: ocelot(76)
2007-08-26 13:18:35
Wow Im an example
Post by: Captain Stupendous(38517)
2007-08-26 13:43:29
Since someone resurrected this old thread of mine of two years past, I might as well revise my opinion of the Traditional style.

I initially started as a Trad with mixed feelings, as I thought I was picking the "weakest style" but I still thought of it as a fun challenge since I could use my knowledge of the game to offset their weakness. Now that I'm mere weeks away from retirement as a Trad, I can finally say without a shadow of a doubt that the Trad style is indeed a solid style to choose.

As long as you build them correctly, Trads can be ridiculously effective in singles. Their pin bonus makes all the difference in the world. The Trad's trend of success in singles seems to peak from SPWA to PWO, and yet only slightly tapers off while advancing through SSWO and VWO, thus remaining a viable competitor from beginning to end.

Trads are fun, especially if you enjoy getting away with quickie pins and subs.
Post by: denzil(82151)
2007-08-27 02:50:04
you can build a trad into a damaging char if you whish. its tuff but you can.

as a starting player trads need to do some newb bashing to move along to get $ for there first pin move. They dont start with one.

the trad move set compaired to all other styles if you work it out on a mean average you will find the class is the worst of the hole groop.

does this make trads bad. No but tuffer if you go the singsl root. am playing a legend right now in law as a trad. dont wory about win loss. just have fun.

Bubba. well he has skill but Bubba did you have a + 3 or 4 when you was a trad? i dont mind it was just tuff to beat you at the best of times lol.

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