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Thread: Read If You Enter VOW Tournaments
Post by: Bret Hart(73101)
2005-08-25 10:28:03
Thiller and I (Benoit) came to the conclusion that using full staff in tournaments is retarded. All it does is void out staff altogether, and everyone loses money! We're on a campaign to stop tournament staffing. Who's with us? Of course there's no complaint about staffing in tournaments, but everyone does it... and it's stupid. It doesn't help anyone to do it. It just costs us money. I will continue using full staff in tournaments until I see that it is no longer a trend. :)
Post by: Stalker35(29023)
2005-08-25 10:33:58
Thiller here, Beniot is right, we all lose when nearly everyone in a tourney uses full staff. There is no money and larger injuries. I say that we need to start with an alliance of DOCS ONLY TOURNEYS. You still have a great chance of winning, but the prize money will pay for your tourney
Post by: Bret Hart(73101)
2005-08-25 10:47:26
That's true Thiller, and when we win without staff... it means a lot more. Maybe we should start mailing tournament participants to inform them to use doctors only?
Post by: Bret Hart(73101)
2005-08-25 11:00:33
I just mailed all the tech tourney members in SSWO. I will be using no staff for this tourney, placing my faith in them.
Post by: Sargeant Rob(21584)
2005-08-25 13:29:41
I think it's kinds stupid. I dont think everyone would obey this.

Staff is an option, Learn to live with it. I learnt the hard way doing somthing like this along time ago.

But hey whatever floats your boat. Whatever tickles your pickle.
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-08-25 15:53:28
That is soooo childish - it's because he's afraid of a big tech doing massive damage to him. STAFF IS A PART OF THE GAME - LIVE WITH IT.
Post by: Coneman(325)
2005-08-25 16:35:22
I would say I won't staff but hey!! I only have 2800exp and wanna try get some more of a chance :S

..besides I have 47k so I can afford matches without any money
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2005-08-25 16:58:07
If you don't want to get full staffed in tourneys, don't enter them :) Plain and simple
Post by: Kueller(13231)
2005-08-25 18:24:07
Of course it is idiotic to use full staff in LAW tournaments - the payout for winning the tourney is less than the money you lose this way and you have only small chances of winning.

But do you honestly think that a SSWO, who gets 5000$ for a tourney win, wouldnt use staff? Your strange little pact may work out until the semis, or maybe even the finals (doubt it), but then at least one (more likely all) of them will break it - because, hey! whats the 500$ they lose due to staff compared to the 5000$ they will get thanks to staff?
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-08-25 18:56:18
I've only ever had one success without tourney staff. I think scorp remembers it :) But the amount of times that someone says they will go docs only in a tourney and staffs is stupid. If you want to fight docs only tourneys, then just fight normal matches, what's the difference?
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-08-25 20:51:00
you messaged me whos in the tech tourny you really think im not gonna use staff :S i want that damn $5000 so i can afford the 12 moves left to buy. And i want to retire with a title aswell like KOVOW did with 3 titles :D
Post by: Mad Bear(46310)
2005-08-25 23:27:40
Fuji enters tournaments so that you all can kick Fuji's behind...Fuji is not interested in money, ohhhh precious money...Fuji's aim is that 1 EXP and little money that Fuji gets from losing...+4 bonus if he wins and money, *yay*...remember vote for Fuji for *Official SSWO Punching Bag Title*

Mount Fuji
Post by: Stalker35(29023)
2005-08-27 23:50:00
All of us know that Staff is a part of the game, however it is frustrating. I have been doing great in a tourney, then in the semi final match, I lose with HUGE stat damage, and that just sucks, we arent saying you have to use docs only in a tourney, we just thought it was an idea. If you dont want to dont
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-08-28 01:10:27
thing is people enter more than 1 tourny at a time and its a big risk not to use staff u could get killed in one and its totally messed u up :S
Post by: N3w Moon(43003)
2005-08-31 04:00:40
I haven't even read the entire first post and hate this thread with a passion. so it will BURN! *tries to set thread on fire*
Post by: daisypusher(124582)
2005-08-31 20:06:29
I agree with Thriller and Benoit. Tournaments should be docs only.

People who go full staff simple are saying they do not think their character is good enough and they need a boost/cheat/help. Just like people who take a performance boosting substance or illegal techniques to get ahead.
Like the guys who use brass knuckles to win a match.
Using something extra to cover your inadequacies.
Yeah staff is legal but they make sure you earn nothing from it. Will you win? Nope. Depends on your initial character.

From the sounds of it and the messages I see, most of you are letting fear rule.
And of fear, ignorance, and pride you will continue to do this.
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2005-09-01 02:35:43
Why do people complain about using staff in tourneys? It's there, so you might aswell use it. I've said this already once in this thread. If you don't like getting staffed, don't enter a tourney.
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-09-01 02:49:43
so you are saying before i retired and BG and HB that we arent good enough to win without staff :S
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-09-01 02:50:10
It's also funny how a person with a 120k ID (unless they are a multi), is talking about staffing.

So explain why people like Scorp, Bubba, Brian Allan and myself staff in tourneys?

Amen though Kish
Post by: madashil(28050)
2005-09-04 04:01:07
It don't work.When I don't staff in tournys (excluding docs) I get my asterix kicked by those who do
Post by: Lincoln(27675)
2005-09-04 10:11:49
Tourney runs, everyone uses Docs Only, it gets to final. Someone wants to win, they use full staff. Sure, their opponent will be annoyed but this is $5000, do they care?

It won't work.
Post by: tbragu(97303)
2005-09-05 12:09:15
the only way to stop staffing in tournaments is to turn off staff. plain and simple.
Post by: ocelot(76)
2005-09-05 12:29:30
Although benoit and thiller are right, that theory was thought of like last year so it isnt anything new. Of course it wont work unless you actually Restrict full staff in tourneys, i mean you want to ensure that you win the tourney so aslong as there is the option people will continue to use it. Whoever invented full staff is probably complaining about it. The person Cough cough IC cough cough...that suggested staff to Peter must have not thought it out throughly...
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