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Thread: Gun vs Rifles
Post by: dabrin(292018)
2007-06-07 21:24:49
As far as i could understand from reading around the forum, nobody really knows the math behind using guns etc.

But does anyone know what the difference is between guns and rifles? do you get extra benefit from controlling a block with half guns and half rifles, or better result if you send 100% rifles.

And as far as i can see, guns etc. does not cost extra AP to use - or am i wrong?
Post by: Shalimar(257353)
2007-06-10 11:52:51
It doesn't cost any extra APs to use weapons and armor, but you do risk losing everything you take if you lose the battle. And no there is no extra benefit from using them except that weapons increase the casualties you cause and armor decreases your own casualties.

I personally don't take weapons and armor into battle early because keeping them increases your strength and the money you can make for selling them, and the combat advantage of the weaker stuff isn't worth the risk of losing them. On the other hand, lasers and battle suits are awesome and well worth getting when you have enough men to attack MILs/PWAs.
Post by: mob(23502)
2007-08-15 22:55:34
I don't know the math behind weapons but have found something interesting to share with the rest of you

These are the results of a PWA/MIL attack.

Special Forces Info:
Retreat 10
357 Novice Enforcer
77 Rifle
246 Jacket

TVG (39)
Retreat 5
300 Novice
300 Rifle
200 Vest
100 Jacket

Combat Round 1
Special Forces scores 149 hits
35 is saved by armours
TVG(39) scores 349 hits
98 is saved by armours

Notice that I scored 349 hits with only 300 novices. I used to think that weapons only increased your chances of hitting but it is apparant that they actually add to your # of hits.

Post by: funk(322644)
2007-10-17 13:45:57
Pistols are so cheap that i take the view of send pistols every time you can but the better gun's are not to be sent on noob death teams but to be used when you send lots of men.
Post by: Locked and Loaded(359992)
2008-06-20 03:14:46
If you know your math is correct, then always send pistols, pistols will almost guartee you everytime that you win.

If you don't then it's just a straight up fist fight, but they have home turf
Post by: Locked and Loaded(359992)
2008-06-20 03:14:58
Plus it will help you take a lot less casuatlies early in the game, and that definately helps when your tryin to make your run.
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-06-20 03:16:44
multi multi multi post post post!!!

shame shame shame on on on you you you!!!
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-06-20 19:24:43
Pistols are so crappy that it is not even worth using them in attacks.

Consider that the math behind how many extra hits you get is based on a weapon's strength value. A pistol has a value of 10. To me it would make sense that you can have a maximum of 10 additional hits for 100 pistols. But that is just a guess. Anyways, it is my experience (which is vast *grin*), pistols are crappy and sould be saved for defense or sold when you have no other way of coming up with the cash to cover your expenses for the next turn.
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-06-20 19:27:07
"pistols will almost guartee you everytime that you win".

And if you lose.... you will be one poor pistolless punk. ;-)
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-06-20 19:27:40
"shame shame shame on on on you you you!!!"

Yeah. Shame. On you.
Post by: lrlguyog(362447)
2008-06-23 19:58:15
who is that guy? Lol he follows around every post that LaL make :\ It's a fan haha
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-06-24 12:31:06
mob... Man of Blackmail...
I'm sure you don't want him to be your "fan" :)
Post by: Locked and Loaded(359992)
2008-06-29 02:55:52
Wow - LRL... I'm mobs fan, not vice versa, plus I don't have a good enough Rep to have fans real fans, like Bloodstones and 919 oG Cripz, all my "fans", are just newbies tryin to learn how play, with out getting squashed like a bug in the process.

LaL
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-06-29 03:09:45
Yeah... squashed like a suepahbug. :-P

And hey, I'm a fan of yours LaL. :-)
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-06-29 05:16:27
sniff... it hurts, guys! :(
i want fans too...
Post by: lrlguyog(362447)
2008-07-01 05:25:07
Yea i meant fans of u LaL :\ and "that guy" was suepafly
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-07-02 06:53:02
Cewl! I didn't know that I was a LaL-fan!
Can I get an autograph now? ;)

And a hand-made puppet?

Oh and perhaps some credits for my exam tomorow?
And let's not forget beer....... LOTS of beer :D
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