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Post by: Jack O Lantern(265862)
2007-02-17 05:44:59
How do guns/vests effect combat outcome?

And how is the AP cost of an attackinf force calculated?
Post by: mob(23502)
2007-02-17 13:01:44
I don't believe anyone knows the math behind how guns/armour effect combat outcome other than that they increase your chances of hits and saves. The better the guns/armour the better the chances. But, you already knew that. Didn't you?

As for the AP cost: you can read the thread in GW General: 5AP formula and some strategy (or something to that effect). Take note of the last post.
Or, you could use Gangwar Tools and make it easy on yourself.

Post by: Shalimar(257353)
2007-02-18 08:37:55
Don't know the math, but in my limited observation pistols and vests don't help enough to make it worth the risk of losing them in battle.
Lasers and battlesuits, on the other hand, are awesome.
Post by: mob(23502)
2007-03-05 13:42:51
It seems that the higher ranking gang members make more effective use of armour. I have seen up to 25% success rates on saves (16 hits, 4 saves) (20 hits, 5 saves) (12 hits, 3 saves) using 50 Masters fully equiped with pistols and vests. If the effectiveness of armour goes up I would imagine the effectiveness of weapons does as well.
Post by: funk(322644)
2007-10-17 14:01:00
that is why i keep wepons to class in order and only give pistols to noobs is i care less if thay don't come back
but give better guns to masters as i dont just thow them at my foes
Post by: mob(23502)
2007-10-18 01:27:55
Interesting concept but there's no way to tell if it actually works. :-\ I have my doubts though because you can't specify where you want your weapons and armor to go. For example if you had only pistols and sent a force of novices, experienced, and leaders, you would want the highest rank to get equiped before the rest and there is no way to do that. How do you know that it isn't the novices getting those worthless pistols?
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-03-22 02:06:39
Here's an example of weapons adding to the total number of hits...

Special Forces Info:
Retreat 10
940 Novice Leader
854 Laser
55 Body Suit

The Vercetti Gang(61) Info:
Retreat 10
1000 Master
1000 Laser
1000 Body Suit

Combat Round 1
Special Forces scores 1000 hits
82 is saved by armours
The Vercetti Gang(61) scores 58 hits
2 is saved by armours


Notice that the Special Forces scored 60 more hits than they have members.

(And notice my awful 'saved by armours'. :-\ Needless to say I lost)
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-03-27 01:18:49
And again...

Special Forces Info:
Retreat 10
810 Experienced Leader
678 Laser
300 Body Suit

The Vercetti Gang(61) Info:
Retreat 10
1333 Experienced
1333 Laser
1333 Body Suit

Combat Round 1
Special Forces scores 1192 hits
264 is saved by armours
The Vercetti Gang(61) scores 810 hits
100 is saved by armours


Special Forces scored 382 more hits than they have members!! (That's a hit success of 147%).

Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-03-27 16:33:09
What's the effect of guns in VoW? ;)
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-03-27 20:22:58
Does VOW even feature weapons? No folding chairs, tables, ladders, trash cans, lead pipes, guitars, crutches... no guns. Sorry! Maybe in VOGW (currently being developed). ;-)
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-03-28 12:08:30
i'll bring my UZI from Adventures Fame :D
Post by: Locked and Loaded(359992)
2008-06-12 03:28:04
And I'll bring my Torpedoes from Space Conquest, togther we'll be unstopable :-)
Post by: Locked and Loaded(359992)
2008-06-12 03:52:12
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-06-12 05:22:05
You wouldn't say that if were were standing in front of you with our weapons!

Post by: Locked and Loaded(359992)
2008-06-20 03:09:27
I don't know about that-

LaL and the Millinum Falcon(with Torpedeos) Vs Vercetti with steel chairs and Suepahfly with his UZIs

Lets calate the odds...I'm not quite sure what a UZI is, but I think it's a type of submachine gun, and I have no idea what kinda effect they would have in Adventure Fame, sooooo....... idk whos wins

What do you think?
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-06-20 03:20:26
Don't tell me you never seen an uzi!
I bet you did ;)

Terminator and stuff like that, they all use them, hahaha.
But none of tham have the advantage that I have.
Soundless air-attacks are totally underrated :D

Nobody stands a chance against a little fly. Ever tried to shoot one from high range? Even a torpedo can't hit that!
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-06-20 04:01:05
Post by: mob(23502)
2008-06-20 19:30:24
Oh! A little fly with a little gun! Isn't that cute?
Post by: suepahfly(59692)
2008-06-21 21:37:57
grrrr, im not little!
i'm suepah!!!
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