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Thread: If they'd limit the # of times you could be attacked....
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2004-12-13 08:42:22
Set a limit that you could be attacked by 1 person, it would slow feeding by attacking, stop rapeing, and face it if you cant take down the #1 guy in say 10 attacks, you had no buisness trying. Personnally I consider it raping hard if someone attacks me more than 5 times. This could work easily within the game now with little impact.

Second, total times you can be attacked, say in a day, to 30 or 40, that would prevent the homeworld from getting totally destroyed. The downside to this would be that you could lock the board up and prevent movement, say if everyone on page 1 had reached their total attacks. There would be no one left to hit then. Maybe limit it withing a shorter time period? say 20 attacks in 2 hours? The only way I see to preserve hw would be to make it harder to destroy, and then the higher up you are, harder to kill. Ideas?
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2004-12-13 09:40:17
2004-12-13 09:35:19 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:35:12 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:34:33 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:30:19 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:30:15 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:30:10 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:29:51 Exilim(6327) attacked Troja(7036) from federation My FED(347)
2004-12-13 09:29:46 Exilim(6327) attacked Troja(7036) from federation My FED(347)
2004-12-13 09:27:07 Troja(7036) from federation My FED(347) attacked Exilim(6327)
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2004-12-13 09:40:48
EMPIRE LIST POSITION 1 to 20

P Empire Id X Y FId Score AP Last Change A W
1 Troja ^^*** 7036 5 2 347 267936 202 2004-12-13 09:39:52 NA W
2 Exilim ^^^******* 6327 6 3 - 57376 79 2004-12-13 09:40:22 NA W
3 Spartapus ^^^^^********* 5295 2 7 350 36475 3 2004-12-13 09:40:11 4 W
4 Aladril ^**** 7561 6 1 347 32794 122 2004-12-13 05:27:21 4 W
5 Trick ^*** 3946 10 2 350 31562 59 2004-12-13 08:52:42 4 W
6 Trip Fontaine 10715 8 4 350 31065 6 2004-12-13 09:35:19 4

Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2004-12-13 09:41:09
anyone else seeing a pattern?
Post by: sparkles(18049)
2004-12-14 06:58:53
Not really just all these good players at the top
Post by: sparkles(18049)
2004-12-14 07:03:58
not really something id like to see.

Doesnt bother me if someone wants to spend 400aps on raping me.

Currently sitting on homeworld like
Building Plants 19
Spaceship Plants 10
Power Plants 16
Power Storage 15
Space Ports 33
Command Center 7

20 rapings later or so....

did it really matter, and will it change my run later, no not really. I just know that my mins are up the board somewhere, and ill collect them when I have full aps

personally if i wanna attack someone more than 50 times in one sitting i will :)

2004-12-13 09:35:19 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:35:12 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:34:33 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:30:19 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:30:15 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:30:10 Exilim(6327) attacked Trip Fontaine(10715) from federation Notorious(350)
2004-12-13 09:29:51 Exilim(6327) attacked Troja(7036) from federation My FED(347)
2004-12-13 09:29:46 Exilim(6327) attacked Troja(7036) from federation My FED(347)
2004-12-13 09:27:07 Troja(7036) from federation My FED(347) attacked Exilim(6327)

he wasnt feeding him exp. does no one see he was stoping his cuz from getting to much. to be fed exp correctly, both empires need to be online at the same time.

Post by: aeldrin(34951)
2004-12-14 08:25:25
I have to agree with Spartapus aka Sparkles.

I don't want to see a limit on the number of attacks either by one person or to one person, either.

Yeah, 10 attacks on one person (especially if you are taking them down from the no. 1 spot are not unusual, especially if they are online in which case it can get really messy.

And while it is frustrating to be hit more than five times, put it the other way around. Let's say you've hit someone 3 times and lost and you "know" they are sitting on a ton of your mins. Your fourth attack loses, and they are fleetless, but because of the 5% rule, they won 50k mins. So you hit them a 5th time, winning this time, but only 10 mins. If it won't cost too much ap, I'll hit them once or twice more just go get the mins I "deserve" off of them, and then send a message to my fedmates telling them how many mins that person is probably still sitting on.

Yes, you can argue that perhaps you should have rethought your strategy and not lost the first three attacks, but all you have to do is look at the galactic reports to find that a lot of people don't have great strategies or good luck.

As per the number of ^ and * in the top positions, that isn't too surprising, and is just a snapshot. Look at it again a few hours later and there is a different picture.

I will agree that the number of * and ^ do seem to appear on the same people, which is a different issue entirely. For what it is worth, those folks were in different feds at different times.

I do remember Wish(?) or maybe Zeus(?) talking in the chat about the need to make sure Feds constantly got mixed around in order to keep the game fluid and interesting and to possibly insure that experienced players would teach new people.

What are people's thoughts on this?
Post by: aeldrin(34951)
2004-12-14 08:26:01
Oh ... by the way, for those who don't know, aeldrin = aladril in S.C.
Post by: sparkles(18049)
2004-12-16 11:51:10
LOL We probably allready know my thorts on mixing the feds up........

But for those of you that dont, I'll say my peice anyway.

I think it would be great to get feded with kai, then I could boot him out, anyone elses thorts on this?

It would be a diaster (i think) if u coulnt choose who you could and couldnt be teamed up with....
Post by: Little Sister(34495)
2004-12-31 06:38:35
I really dont care for the idea of a maximum limit on attacks. The game I played before this had a max attack limit, and once that person had his max defenses, then he could go do EXACTLY as he pleased and there wasnt a thing you could do about it. Its not a good feeling to have to sit there and take it.
Post by: cajunman(67645)
2005-03-26 20:31:46
I like being raped..(tips hand)..And as far as ex and spa rt attacking each other..thats just smart playing..they are almost as smart as I am.I like to do that too but my fed mates arent on very much when they are ap building..I would like to mention one thing..Im the best..Face it and get over it..I cant tell how good i am...you can ask ill sure tell ya..but anyways just because im so good doesnt mean you cant rape me. go ahead i like it..makes my skin crawl...ya know..okay well thanks for reading this..if you are thinking what a jerk right now youve got it all wrong..you should be thinking what a player...What a Player..WHAT A PLAYER...WHAT A MAN

~WHISPER~ ~WHISPER~WHISPER~WHISPER~WHISPER~ chant the name..chant the name
Post by: simstar(98)
2005-03-27 09:34:47
Aladril said:
"I do remember Wish(?) or maybe Zeus(?) talking in the chat about the need to make sure Feds constantly got mixed around in order to keep the game fluid and interesting and to possibly insure that experienced players would teach new people."
Twas me who first suggested it ahem cough cough. ill be back soon everyone, maybe one more round off, we will see how i feel.
Sim
Post by: Opacus Mortu(61923)
2005-03-28 03:24:39
...this is gonan sound weird saying, but i being a unactive player i dont expect my thoughts to ge trecognized, and plus...i know no one aggrees, bu ti think changing the feds would be fun...we'd get to know mor eppl, it'd actually be challenging...but of course we might have to get rid of the "leave federation' and "boot player" things...but i thought it was a good idea then, and i still do
Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2005-03-29 03:54:17
if i cant choose whom i play with then i quit. and most vets will as well.
Post by: scion(66682)
2005-03-29 09:32:41
Thats because all of the vets are only used to winning with their fellow vets...
Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2005-03-29 11:02:44
no its cuz we do like to win granted... but also as newbs dont listen think they know it all and cant be trusted...
Post by: Opacus Mortu(61923)
2005-03-30 09:34:07
i think we'd obtaine alot more noobs if noobs didnt have to fed with noobs till they are donators, then be excepted into a fed with....ppl that r...eh in skill, i don tno that for sure, bu ti'm just assuming,
Post by: Dalvian(38356)
2005-04-03 00:29:03
I disagree with a max number of attacks. It would open up this scenario.

1. Monkeyboy attacks Dogboy 10 times.
2. Dogboy waits and does nothing. Stays invisible.
3. Dogboy turns around and attacks Monkeyboy without fear of retaliation.

I know you do the same thing by letting your enemy burn out of AP or by letting them pass over you and then hitting from behind. However, there is the principle of the thing.
Post by: mael(88584)
2005-05-10 07:21:35
Speaking as a NEWB....for what thats worth...the system seems to work fine as is. The feds will sort themselves out, player attrition for various reasons etc.
I wouldnt mind being in a fed...but I fully realize two things right off...
1. I know SQUAT about the game really, and have no business trying to run a couple of other newbs around on some lark.
2. After you 'vets' are comfortable with seeing my name on 1st and 2nd page consistently...you might send an invite, if not...no sweat..seya on the boards.
Post by: mael(88584)
2005-05-10 07:38:21
Speaking as a NEWB....for what thats worth...the system seems to work fine as is. The feds will sort themselves out, player attrition for various reasons etc.
I wouldnt mind being in a fed...but I fully realize two things right off...
1. I know SQUAT about the game really, and have no business trying to run a couple of other newbs around on some lark.
2. After you 'vets' are comfortable with seeing my name on 1st and 2nd page consistently...you might send an invite, if not...no sweat..seya on the boards.
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