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Thread: blatent gebil feeding
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-11-30 12:44:25
2005-11-30 12:34:23 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)
2005-11-30 12:33:18 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)
2005-11-30 12:24:32 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 12:23:12 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 12:22:56 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 12:22:43 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 12:22:17 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 12:22:00 Skydive(13583) from federation Phils List(825) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:47:27 Vallhalla(16230) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:46:33 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:46:29 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:46:24 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:45:55 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:45:50 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:45:45 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:45:12 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:44:20 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:41:50 Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824) attacked Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826)

2005-11-30 11:27:26 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)

2005-11-30 11:26:36 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)

2005-11-30 11:26:21 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)

2005-11-30 11:26:11 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)

2005-11-30 11:25:50 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)

2005-11-30 11:25:14 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)

2005-11-30 11:24:10 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)

2005-11-30 11:23:02 Dealer Confederate(9936) from federation Terms Of Service(826) attacked Exilim(6327) from federation oldschool(824)





dont tell me that these guys are so stupid to try to take exi online. call it what it is......

Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2005-11-30 16:09:38
ROFL sigh, gerbil tactics...
Post by: Claymore(37218)
2005-12-01 00:19:13
What's your point? Everyone in SC has done this.
Post by: mael(88584)
2005-12-01 03:18:02
Ohh..I see it nowwww..

You mean to tell me you wasted your time sorting thru the Galactic Reports and there was an actual series of events that included two different feds that ran for top one after another in rapid succession while it was being actively defended,and neither made it all the way up????
Positively Scandalous!!! How can that be???
Everyone knows that Exi is impervious to attack...by God, havent they listened to the chats...Everyone agrees that its sheer folly to even ATTEMPT to take someone online...no body does THAT!!
What ever are we going to do?? How can anyone but Troja and Exi hope to win under these circumstances??
Why does anyone even bother playing anymore????
We are all doomed!!!
OH MY...its the End of Days!!!

Post by: mael(88584)
2005-12-01 03:26:38
And upon further review...your time would have been better spent checking your spelling.
Post by: exilim(25091)
2005-12-01 03:30:59
lol funny propaganda again..

i didnīt defend or rebuild when dealer went for me coz i was off for 20 minutes after he took me i took him down again..

and sky hit me seeing me apless (of course i didnīt took me bonus.. why should i?;)

Skydive(13583) ATTACKS Exilim(6327)


Attacker Ships
3689 Fighter
2471 Bomber
39 Star Destroyer
336 Torpedoes

Federation Ships
99 Bomber
Defender Ships
9000 Fighter
5000 Shielder
1000 Star Destroyer

Mine Grids destroyed by Torpedoes : 336

Attacker ships destroyed by the remaining MineGrids :
385 Fighter

65 Minegrids exploded.

The combat begins.
Attackers destroyed :
2864 Fighter

Defenders destroyed :
765 Fighter


Harvesters destroyed : 0
Harvesters captured : 0


Minerals captured : 136
Power captured : 78

Destroyed Buildings :
Building Plants : 128
Spaceship Plants : 30
PowerPlants : 133
PowerStorage : 91
SpacePorts : 300
FleetCommandCenter : 59
SpaceTorpedoes : 0


18173 minerals salvaged from destroyed ships and buildings is awarded to Skydive(13583).


that hit encouraged him taking me down..

and most xp that day i did get from spart;)

Spartapus(5295) ATTACKS Exilim(6327)


Attacker Ships
6326 Fighter
4774 Bomber
Defender Ships
18400 Fighter
7000 Shielder
1000 Star Destroyer

Mine Grids destroyed by Torpedoes : 0

Attacker ships destroyed by the remaining MineGrids :
272 Fighter

27 Minegrids exploded.

The combat begins.
Attackers destroyed :
6054 Fighter
3596 Bomber

Defenders destroyed :
3123 Fighter


Harvesters destroyed : 0
Harvesters captured : 0


Minerals captured : 131
Power captured : 148

Destroyed Buildings :
Building Plants : 91
Spaceship Plants : 144
PowerPlants : 112
PowerStorage : 200
SpacePorts : 1584
FleetCommandCenter : 184
SpaceTorpedoes : 180


64373 minerals salvaged from destroyed ships and buildings is awarded to Spartapus(5295).

that encouraged him taking me down when i really was apless..of course with clams and sent getting mins;)

greetz exi:)
Post by: Dalvian(38356)
2005-12-01 03:31:00
I'm not saying it is feeding.
I'm not saying it is not feeding.
I only have one simple question.

What the heck is a gebil?
Post by: RadicalG(52434)
2005-12-01 05:23:47
In what way was that feeding? All those gal reports show is that I ran, raped exi to fleetless, ran out of ap just before he came back online, and was thus, justly, taken back down with the remaining mins that I couldn't take off him by hitting down. There's no feeding about it, it was just a rather close call as to who got top spot. To be honest, it was a rare moment of genuinely interesting battle from my point of view after a slightly stagnant round of total dominance before this one.

If SC getting interesting again counts as feeding, then FEED DAMN YOU, FEEEEEEEEED!
Post by: Dalvian(38356)
2005-12-01 22:57:56
Actually, I witnessed Dealer's battle with Exi. It seemed like legit combat to me. It also seemed like a lot of fun. The other instances I can't comment on as I was not present.
Post by: lexxx(11816)
2005-12-07 10:44:25
Oh, nice to hear your words Dalvian, u are too clearsighted to be on the tainted side.
jdegraf hasnt commented the replies in here wonder why... :)
Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2005-12-08 05:06:27
i own dal do not forget it. he would not have butter if not for me. and nobody would rock him to sleep if not.
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-12-09 06:25:10
hmmm why havent i posted? maybe because fed old school is about as exciting as watching the paint on my used cruiser peel. i revert to my origial statments that the coffers should be done away with somehow. feeding is very bad for the board and if anyone doesnt believe it look at the board. troja and ex and thug have ruined any fun this round and if it continues all the vets will leave, more noobs will leave and the only ones left in the game will be the ones who will sell thier soul, mother, and peter's games for a carrot.

1 Thug Luv ^***** 2889 6 4 824 3699802 426 2005-12-08 19:49:11 NA W
2 Exilim ^^**** 6327 3 1 824 3198727 390 2005-12-09 04:13:36 NA W
3 Dalvian ** 7968 9 7 829 117438 217 2005-12-09 06:18:48 NA W


about the time i made my original post is when the board was first wrecked, and it hasnt changed much since. troja runs and feeds mins to #2 spot till thug or ex switch. whooooopie. is this what you ALL donate for? i dont think so. wake up and see that coffers are evil, and as soon as you can move mins from one empire to the other, this will always be happening. the application of it changes, but the result WILL ALWAYS BE THE SAME: a board no one could run or take top spot. again, whooooopie. congrats ex, thug, troja, and kia. wonder how many players you discuraged this round.
Post by: ac(30533)
2005-12-09 07:09:19
1. phil will use any kind of tactics to win sc too.
2. building harvs has the same result
3. u can do it the same way if u can ;)
4. we wont stop with that if u dont stop building ur harvs.
5. since only the result counts, and not the way how someone win a round, WE DONT GIVE A F***.
Post by: ac(30533)
2005-12-09 07:13:59
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-12-09 07:16:31
i have built a total of 8 harvies. it sure seemed to be less effective than you would imply. oh, and i am glad to hear you dont support fair gameplay. nice of you to put into writing for all you fans to see.
Post by: ac(30533)
2005-12-09 07:19:50
ehm wot is fair wot is unfair????

building harvs rooting the board in fair, but feeding mins to fedmates is unfair???

the diff is only u need skills for feeding mins up and for building harvs not. ;)

and if we dont feed mins up ur fed will build harvs, so please tell me why do i have to let u guys win???
Post by: Voltage18(145681)
2005-12-09 07:21:09
rofl, so your saying to be a little coward and attack when their offline out of aps, lol. nice advice.
Post by: exilim(25091)
2005-12-09 07:29:16
oh sweet another whining:P



we wouldnīt do any boardruining strategy if there would be sparts fed using an tactic for notrunners... the harvtactic;)



we rnīt taking any mins outside the game.. if u guys would act and stop whining and begging for help by others u prolly could take us down.. so stop whining and learn how to run!





i always wanted some challenge but realizing there is no.. try to give us challenge;)

itīs 2 players feeding two players vs 4 members feeding one player and u fail.. blame urself or the guy u wasting all apīs for feeding mins and going nowhere;)





can u imagine how the boardscore would look like if we would use the harvtactic?? it would look way lower and no chance to get any best record if the two emps on top going down..

but now u got the chance to get the glory of best records;)



regards Exi
Post by: exilim(25091)
2005-12-09 07:32:50
and what would happening if u s5top feeding through coffers? yes spart would be one of top 10 runners nothing more..

Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-12-09 07:16:31 i have built a total of 8 harvies. it sure seemed to be less effective than you would imply. oh, and i am glad to hear you dont support fair gameplay. nice of you to put into writing for all you fans to see.

u couldnīt build more cause u went out of apīs.. loooooooool control ur apīs.. get mins apcheaper and IMPROVE UR RUNS!!!

the harvstrategy is unhonourable cause u donīt need anyskills.. the two empire on top tactic require runningskills from everymate and higher xp than most of the empires in the game.. thatīs the diffrence and showing our ownage;)

regards exi
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-12-09 07:48:21
well, in retort: there are no mins on the board to build harvies, and there really wasn't when we tried it. its not about ap conservation, and you know it. its not about my skills, and you know it. its about the fact you guys would eat space dung if there was a carrot in it for you. the tactics of MOVING MINS from one empire to another creates a board that compliments your greediness. congrats, again, wonder how many peeps dont and wont ever donate to peters game because of the way you play. hope he (peter) is proud of you. as a side note, this problam was noted (by me)last freaking year.
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-12-09 08:16:20
Post by: exilim(25091)

2005-12-09 07:32:50 and what would happening if u s5top feeding through coffers? yes spart would be one of top 10 runners nothing more..



THERE WOULD BE AT LEAST 10 RUNNERS THEN AS OPPOSED TO NONE(like now)
Post by: exilim(25091)
2005-12-09 09:35:16
it was u starting ruining the board after spart was unlucky against tugs and phil clams and u were raping us and building harvs sent;)
we even made stepstones to our mates.. there always was one of us on first second and third spot to give mates xp..

we donīt fear to leave boards as long as u do.. so stop crying and start to play and talk honourble;)


there were chances to reach us but instead u waited and hoped for a nicer board hell just run and try it instead of talking big.. u did harvbuilding we owned u by good fedwork and running

regards exi
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-12-09 11:28:01
you "owned" the fed min transfer award
Post by: exilim(25091)
2005-12-09 12:23:39
exilim 400k xp
tugs 150k xp
troja 230-250k xp
kai 200-250k xp
everyone of us could have climbed top if there wouldnīt be a mate in our way the whole freakin boring round!!!

spart 400k xp
phil 110-130k xp
dal sent and clams bout 50-100k xp

we killed ships what did u guys do? i have to remark kaiīs words slavvvvvvves:P


regards exi
Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2005-12-09 13:34:15
LOOOOOL this funny
Post by: daniel smith(3538)
2005-12-09 16:27:10
your proposal of no feeding through the coffers and only personal coffers could work sent, but id say the ones who be most affected, are people that cant climb boards or spart..the only times he looked like taking top he was fed through fed coffers.

keeping two fedmates in top spots with a 4man fed does require skill and is challenging..feeding 1 to take top then destroy board with harvs via the other 4 shows less skill.

in its self feeding the stronger player to take advantage of what the board has to offer, is teamwork.so too is keeping exi and i up top. it is good to have rules in place, and pushing the game mechanics to the limit is what enables feds to dominate, ie.notor for a longtime.

there is plenty enough players and feds to make it challenging, use what ever tactics you need to create boards create ladders and take top position.no talk of honour or lack of..unless some people are to proud to use the tactics thats failed them before.like exi pointed out, again the exp diff between our fed and other feds this round and last.it shows who killing ships.and who is not. if chris and phil try the two guys up top thing that fine, aint gonna see us guys winging and not trying...

thug
Post by: sparkles(18049)
2005-12-09 21:57:15
Firstly, making harvies is a lot better than two empires taking the top, WHY? because 300 harvies down below, is a lot more fun than min heavy boards. technically i dont see any difference to what you doing exi, that a rule change was implemented because of, feeding the top empires to make it impossible for noobs to win. so now we have no board regeneration down below, and all the mins up top. A rule change was implemented to stop it, becuase it wasnt honourable. You are just doing the same. Quite frankly, if its not in the rules, ie, i doubt that making building harvies illegal will ever happen, WHY? IDIOT? coz it helps the game, it helps noobs build fleets and it regens boards.

For any of those others that actually beleive i cannot run by myself... WHATEVER. I'll take anyone, anytime. well, preferable when im awake or in my time zone, at work, after work, before playtime, after clients.

So anyway, i had the most unblievable threesome, which, phill, lol pg rated pics for you!


Cheers

Spart
Post by: Dalvian(38356)
2005-12-09 22:19:44
Actually my xp is over 100k.
If you got one fact wrong than one can only assume that you got other facts wrong.
Post by: exilim(25091)
2005-12-09 23:42:31
*sarcastic mode on*
while the harv tactic didnīt gave anyone a chance to reach top with a way lower score itīs hard to get any best record..

we didnīt build harvs to give noobs a chance to get the glory of the best records.. if they would work better together and teamwork to take the top down they would be easy over 600k xp and 7million score.
*sarcastic mode off*

that the harv tactic helps noobs is the funniest thing i ever heard..
a) the harvtactic donīt require any skills itīs just to make it impossible to reach the top
b)the chances to take us down were there and sky and maellstrom showed how easy it was to reach and had a good shot at me cause they didnīt hope for a nice board they just started their run when they had full apīs and they did a good shot at me he could had won as well..

the only reason why sparts fed had no chance to reach us was they didnīt move when there was some dynamics.. they waited till everyone was offline and were hoping for a nicer board and our mates punished it taking the stepstones down and donate the 2 emps on top the mins our fed deserve

so improve ur runs and try to give us challenge instead of finding excuses cause there was no board.. we would be pretty happy if other feds would use the same tactic cause that would show runimprovement

regards exi
Post by: jddegraff(43958)
2005-12-10 06:24:14
funny zhiznit... exi talking about improving runs when he ran, what, twice this round? the rest of the time he sat and got fed mins from below. so preach you dishonerable tactics to someone who walks in your shoes.... like thug. all you two did was get fat exp from a blown board. there was one time that the board wasnt wrecked that i saw, and we took it. say what you want, but if an empire sits up top the whole round, or in this case two empires, feeding is gonna kill this game.


on a seperate note, my donation status is up soon, and i have orders to bahrain. dont know when, but i will probably be leaving the universe of sc soon for a year to 18 months. hope that the game changes for the better while i am gone.
Post by: SkydiveMike(86286)
2005-12-10 06:36:33
Gee exi - you forgot my 300k xp and no board to use it on and not a member of either of the two dominant feds -- why exclude me unless it's because it hurts your point?
Post by: Dalvian(38356)
2005-12-10 06:54:11
You don't count Mike.
Didn't you get the memo?
Post by: SkydiveMike(86286)
2005-12-10 08:09:04
clearly i didn't get the memo -- i have this odd cover sheet though and i dont know where it belongs
Post by: daniel smith(3538)
2005-12-10 09:07:14
sent, if u bothered to look at exi gal reports u would notice how many times he ran.i ran 3times because i wasnt taken down to allow further runs..and how did i gain fat exp from not being hit?? i only had 140k at the end

like exi stated, mike and mael had good shots at top and could have easily have taken us..

i hope this round is more even as it does provide a funner game
Post by: SkydiveMike(86286)
2005-12-10 10:59:52
i'll freely admit this -- last run, with help from mael, with a decent o-fleet and decent torp numbers I had a choice

Thug for 3AP -- a higher score for him by 10% or so if i remember correct, and a history of me having bad luck against him

Exi for 4AP -- a lower score, but i knew he had more exp

In the end, I chose the history of bad luck (thuggie) and chose to avoid hitting thuggie -- i lost to exi (not by much, and certainly not an intentional feeding) and thus ended the round

I take full responsibility for letting my fed mates down by chosing the wrong target. Akira, Cat, and Mael did a great job this past round and I give them all the credit for it. I apologize to all three of them for a failure that is mine, and mine only.
Post by: Dalvian(38356)
2005-12-10 23:43:10
Following Sky's admission of guilt he was paraded onto a sail barge. Though he boasted that he would be triumphant one day he was thrown into the pit of the Sarlac where he would be digested slowly over the next thousand years.
Post by: sparkles(18049)
2005-12-12 10:20:45
Eximoron
"that the harv tactic helps noobs is the funniest thing i ever heard..
a) the harvtactic donīt require any skills itīs just to make it impossible to reach the top
"

No it doesnt, taking all the mins off board to position 1 and 2, does make it near impossible and relie on luck to a certain degree.

You actually want another fed to use the same tatics? it will back fire, no one wants to play a round where 2 emps sit up top all round. Harvies help noobs, play.

it means the board renerates better and quicker.

If you want to know what the most honourable tatic would be, you only need to look at the rules that were introduced to stop no.1 feeding.

the only rule introduced about harvesters, actually created more of them, not less. Y, because they help the game dynamics.

and yes someone could have run at the end and won, im just glad didnt wake me up to do it :) thanks phill, (YOU KNOW WHY)


OH, BTW.
"the only reason why sparts fed had no chance to reach us was they didnīt move when there was some dynamics.. they waited till everyone was offline and were hoping for a nicer board and our mates punished it taking the stepstones down and donate the 2 emps on top the mins our fed deserve "

No the only reason you won, is coz the time we were going to run i was 24-36 hrs late. I apologise to my fed for this, i was screwing around. so we had to run when there wasnt as many mins, coz you guys had ur chance to screw the board, i beleive we still hit thug with 65k torps, (120k exp v's 360K) at the time, and lost the hit. it just mean we couldnt scrape the mins together to do it again.


But then exi you constantly blame people as feeding me anyway, like when warlords hits me with 20k torps. YEAH NICE FEED, Wa wa wa wa wa.

I dont care what tatics you use, but if you want to compare harvie building with the junk you use, yours is by far the most un-honourable.






Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2005-12-12 16:13:11
to quote my longest standing fedmate: and yes someone could have run at the end and won, im just glad didnt wake me up to do it :) thanks phill, (YOU KNOW WHY)


LOL and they say ur in charge... rofl

when will gerbils realise its not one but the team that decided stuff. sigh, and so many traitors... geez
Post by: sparkles(18049)
2005-12-12 21:58:29
The best part is they visited my office today, LOL
Post by: Gorgon(27256)
2006-01-09 05:42:13
At the risk of putting people off arguing...

I've just got a huge bout of de'ja'vooo (sp) loool

Seems to me that when Notor was winning every game then even the noobs were complaining and arguing with Peter to try and change the game so we couldnt win...

Not that Exi and his fed is winning rather consistantly a similar thing is happening with them. I wouldnt criticise Sparts harvester argument coz its rather sound as far as I'm concerned. Nevertheless, most of the other chat on these chat pages seem to be helpless bickering.. I agree with Exi - why dont most of you peeps stop complaining and work on your runs loool

Hopefully I wont be slammed into the ground now that I'm back.. Maybe I should donate lool
Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2006-01-09 13:02:33
*picks up the reverand and slams him.
Post by: Gorgon(27256)
2006-01-13 12:35:02
I take offense to that.. can someone ban him ;)
Post by: philldodilldo(22259)
2006-01-17 20:22:04
sigh, just when i was gonna bury the hatchet and fed up with u again...
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