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Forum: VOW Development & Design
Thread: 2 birds with one stone!
Post by: legendary wolf(38655)
2005-07-21 23:32:34
we have 2 problems,
Multi - accounting
and LAWs detaching too often, and not playing the game to its full

so i thought up a way to cure both of these, how about letting you have an extra character when you reach PWO, im not saying this to benefit myself as i am only SPWA.

Farmer Bill
Post by: Belial(107975)
2005-07-21 23:40:58
Dunno if its gonna help much dude, heres my two cents if it means anything to ya.

I'm pretty new to this game but whats kept me coming back is the interaction in chat, where as these forums aren't very well used by newer players, myself included. Maybe more encouragement/publicity directed to the community aspect would help stop the detaching, as for the multi issues you get multies in every online game, find a solution to that and I'm sure a lot of people would be dying to know, ;).
Post by: lisaste(103063)
2005-07-21 23:42:27
recently, its not just been LAWS detaching...ive seen SPWA`s detach etc, so its not just confined to LAWS.

cant see how that will improve things to be honest...the option is there to detach....ppl detach, its that simple.

dont see it as detracting from the game at all....it happens.
Post by: legendary wolf(38655)
2005-07-21 23:44:08
there is a solution an ips ban, which doesnt work with me cos i use aol, and every aol user online has teh same ip adress!

so when my m8 joined this game i was playing once, we got banend straight away for multi'ing,

but i still feel its a good idea, and now i know peter wont do it, it seems all the things in this thread are never used so theres no poitn in haveing it.
Post by: lisaste(103063)
2005-07-21 23:44:12
i thought AOL users were on a proxy?

true multi`s should be banned etc.....no question.
i see your point mate, but i cant see how it could be implemented.

just seen this in vow chat...by you wolf..

"2005-07-21 23:45:04 Farmer_Bill(47213)
i play adventures fame and have 5 chars on it :D

sort of makes this point moot really, when ure saying in other games u play as a multi....lol
Post by: legendary wolf(38655)
2005-07-21 23:46:07
i wish i knew what a proxy was :(
Post by: jmallonee(34807)
2005-07-21 23:52:20
getting extra characters will probally not happen, do to the reason that it is a benefit to those who donate, or have donated, some have paid hundreds, maybe a thousand of dollars, if peter was to let everyone have an extra character, it would reduce the benefit of being a donator, donations would slack off, and it would cost peter more to run the site out of his own pocket, this is a game, true, but, it is also a source of income to peter, and i dont think he could justify it to the donators, who have paid hundreds of dollars, to all of a sudden just give a benefit (an extra character) to people that the donators had to pay to recieve,just my thoughts,
Post by: legendary wolf(38655)
2005-07-22 00:25:32
i used to donate and im ok with it
Post by: Brian Allan(45150)
2005-07-22 01:13:26
Keywords "use to". :P
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-07-22 05:33:45
Simple solution: want more wrestlers.... then donate!
Post by: Dinkus_Warrior(50201)
2005-07-22 15:52:19
lisaste - you're allowed to have unlimited characters on Adventurer's Fame, so that isn't breaking the rules.

and yes, if you want more wrestlers, donate! It is worth it alone to be able to play two more guys instead of being confined to one
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2005-07-22 20:04:35
bah... anyone want to donate for me :)
Post by: death arrives17(114361)
2005-07-23 23:48:24
ok the multi thing aint nobody gunna stop that i even found out away to change my ip or erase the histroy with the old one so no one can see if is actually the sa,meone or not. but getting a 2nd character good idea but peter wants all the money from donators plus is preety greedy so it aint gunna happen
Post by: BubbaG(33460)
2005-07-24 02:46:24
You know shawn its not very smart admitting that on the forum.
Post by: legendary wolf(38655)
2005-07-24 04:36:39
bubbaG, atleas u understood what he sed :S
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-07-24 06:44:24
Here we go again, stop discriminating again a disabled person. Although, being a multi can be easily detected - and not just through IP addresses ;)
Post by: gatcholio(28366)
2005-07-24 10:52:48
how about the game offers a trial basis run, you get your 2500 initial AP, and 1 ap every ten minutes. you want more, donate.

As far as detaching goes, I would LOVE to see the 5 day rule come back into effect.
Post by: Crosson(37742)
2005-07-24 12:34:24
or at least 1 day anyway sounds good. 5 days may be a bit harsh, but I do believe it would be effective.
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-07-24 15:31:19
Or maybe a certain amount of detaches allowed per week (e.g. 2). The amount of people that lose 1 match in LAW and then detach is unreal.
Post by: Doug the Designer(55)
2005-07-27 09:10:23
Multi accounting: Nothing will cure this without making the system even more stringent, which means upsetting more real players. 90% of multis don't multi because they want to play the game more, they multi because they want to cheat. The 10% that multi because they want to play the game more always confess when confronted and are handled leniently by the staff (if the player is respectful and truthful). How could we persecute someone who likes the game so much? The other 90% will still cheat no matter what perks or incentives there are. In fact, those perks or incentives will make the cheating easier and more lucrative.

LAW drop-outs: I don't really see how this affects the current players. When I was a LAW, I either challenged those that were online with me, or I just challenged a whole bunch of players and removed any un-answered challenges after 24 hours. Players that detach after losing one match are not the type of people that can be made to play correctly through incentives, since such behavior clearly indicates an impatience that is impervious to reason.
Post by: gatcholio(28366)
2005-07-29 18:59:41
While I agree that perhaps a five day rule would encourage people to multi more... I don't see the difference between a five day rule in VoW and a five day rule for SC/GW.

I remember being asked to join a GW with someone, so I did, only to discover that they couldn't join because they had detached a SC game three days beforehand...

That made absolutely no sense to me when I could detach 30 times in 30 seconds in VOW.

There are players who come on and start arguments on VOW, become hated quickly, then detach to restart their anonymity.

Although, sure, it doesn't effect any gameplay aspects to detach after a short time,... I have no point, except to treat GangWars the same way since you can't detach those anyway... Please don't punish someone wanting to join a gangwar because they detached a Space Conquest account.

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