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Thread: Very Important Concern/Suggestion For Game Creators...
Post by: Bret Hart(73101)
2005-03-06 16:48:37
I see a lot of Knock outs on here. I would like to see the knock out percentage lowered, I'd rather see people win by pin or submission. When you watch people on television, you don't see them win with knock out as much as on here. Is there a way the KO win percentage can be lowered? It gives so many injuries to get KOed and I just think it'd be better to see less Knock outs.
Post by: Lincoln(27675)
2005-03-06 16:55:38
I agree... I hate getting smashed and that's why I often don't fight cages or people above me.

I like pin/sub wins but I hate even a KO win, knowing I've given someone heaps of stat.

I'm in favour!!!
Post by: gruchul(66928)
2005-03-06 17:00:56
KOs really aren't that frequent in stages after LAW. I know I tend to win or lose by pin a lot more.
Post by: Bret Hart(73101)
2005-03-06 17:04:44
KOs should be a special occassion in wrestling, not a frequent event at all... It's wrestling, not street fighting right?
Post by: Coneman(325)
2005-03-06 17:07:52
Lose By Pin 69
Lose By Submission 47
Lose By Knockout 17
Lose Cage 17
Lose Ladder 10

17 KO losses out of 160 losses for Coneman


Lose By Pin 370
Lose By Submission 352
Lose By Knockout 39
Lose Cage 76
Lose Ladder 41

39 KO losses out of 878 losses

So after that I fail to see your point...
Post by: Bret Hart(73101)
2005-03-06 17:10:19
Fail to see my point? Look at my stats...

Win By Pin 45
Win By Submission 1
Win By Knockout 34
Win Cage 12
Win Ladder 5
Lose By Pin 49
Lose By Submission 7
Lose By Knockout 25
Lose Cage 14
Lose Ladder 7
Lose Tag 6
Win Tag 0
Post by: Bret Hart(73101)
2005-03-06 17:22:43
Win By Pin 45
Win By Knockout 34

That's way over half of my pin wins to KOs.
Post by: Lincoln(27675)
2005-03-06 18:23:51
Win By Pin 318
Win By Submission 183
Win By Knockout 139

Lose By Pin 339
Lose By Submission 286
Lose By Knockout 74


Over 200 (213 to be exact) of Tajiri's matches have ended in a KO!
Post by: Coneman(325)
2005-03-06 18:32:11
most KO's happen in law anyway :S
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-03-06 19:25:41
Old LK:
135 KO wins + 94 KO losses = 229 KOs total
Total number of singles fights: 2044
%age of matches ending in KO = 11.2%

Gig. Joe:
113 Wins + 21 Losses = 134 KOs total
Total number of singles fights: 1144
%age of matches ending in KO = 11.7%


After PWO (maybe SPWA) KOs become more and more rare. Its only tourneys or matches between 2 people that have 0 sub/pin moves.

BTW Brock Lesnar won a lot of his WWE fights by KO at the start.
Post by: lazy(27024)
2005-03-06 21:07:09
I don't see a prob with kos, when people buy more pins/subs kos are less frequent take a look at my stats...



exp 1058

Win by KO 45

Lose by KO 34

Total KOS 79

total SINGLE matches 392

percentage of kos in singles %20.1 (Most of my kos were in LAW/SPWA and they are very rare now in PWO.)
Post by: lazy(27024)
2005-03-06 21:11:41
LAW is very similar to street fighting anyways........ look at the starting moves.....
Post by: lazy(27024)
2005-03-06 21:11:55
cept without weapons
Post by: Coneman(325)
2005-03-07 12:04:52
I don't see any reason for anything to change.

Once you get through LAW and SPWA, KO's become really rare...

Another way of minimizing KO's is fight people close to your exp and people who you know don't have like every strength move :S
Post by: beggar(46408)
2005-03-07 14:27:41
btw, KO isn't an event, like sub or Pin
KO just happens when your con runs out
Post by: Crosson(37742)
2005-03-07 17:49:03
Win By Pin 155
Win By Submission 58
Win By Knockout 66

Lose By Pin 183
Lose By Submission 101
Lose By Knockout 61

Total singles matches ended via knockout: 127
Total singles matches: 624
knockout percentage: 20.35%

Also, don't forget about Toss out of the Ring. That also counts as a knockout win...
Post by: lazy(27024)
2005-03-08 09:32:57
don't forget Toss out ring
Post by: Crosson(37742)
2005-03-09 00:57:27
what is with people and repeating stuff that is already posted?
Post by: gatcholio(28366)
2005-03-09 13:37:36
This is funny. blah Blah blah, too many subs... blah blah blah, too may KO's. Why don't we all tell Peter what our wrestler specializes in, and tell him to cater to that? LoL
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