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Forum: VOW Development & Design
Thread: A new wrinkle to add
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-06-19 09:00:30
Greetings:

Once again, I feel the call to add my two cents in hoping to make a pretty good game- excellent. The aging /stat cap was well overdue. Many veterans will not agree, but, I think it makes a good player think more before they play and this is supposed to be closer to roleplaying than just purely playing of virtual mayhem.

Here is my latest hairbrained suggestion in the following statement:

Let's make being a champion more pertinent. I feel VOW should add an E-fed component to the game which by some creative ranking include only the best players. Then, the best rank could be given the position of General Manager, second, Creative chief and match booker. To keep things different, this could be done each month or a period of a quarter (3 months). Then, perhaps we can see more player get into the rolepaying aspect of the game without turning into bullies. Therefore, a segment of VOW could operate like a true wrestling federation. I know this sounds a bit hardcore, but, I think it would be fun to have centralized E-fed instead of the rivalries that circle outside of VOW sometimes out of control.

Thank You for reading
Post by: yar(35506)
2006-06-20 22:50:56
tries to remember who yadlow is?
well anyway unless you have hit aging yourself then your words carry no weight with me, true i have hit the aging and hasnt seemed to affect my wrestler too much yet, but i think caping the stats would have been enough.

As far as the efed thing goes, vow is to offensive already, having an official efed thingy would only add to the offensive nature of chat.

but this is just my opinion for what its worth lol

I just think that before adding anything new to the game, they should finish things already introduced to the game, like Stables for instance. There are alot of stables, and i think it could bring alot of enjoyment to make them a bigger part of the game, have a stable championship and other things, of course i have the best stable in vow and would pawn all others but oh well lol
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2006-06-24 01:31:49
"The aging /stat cap was well overdue. Many veterans will not agree, but, I think it makes a good player think more before they play and this is supposed to be closer to roleplaying than just purely playing of virtual mayhem."

How can think more before you play when you log back on after couple of weeks of being offline and notice that aging / stat cap has been implemented and realise you might be screwed (real) soon?

And like Ray said, unless aging have hit yourself, your words are like air to most vets (?)...
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-06-25 03:24:29
Well PM2, IF2 and Jason Deal have all been through the aging process. Titles were won and held for as long as the could be. Aging is not a negative.
Post by: yar(35506)
2006-06-25 04:15:12
lol its spense sorry bud i dont agree.
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2006-06-26 08:57:10
"Well PM2, IF2 and Jason Deal have all been through the aging process. Titles were won and held for as long as the could be. Aging is not a negative."

Ouch... pwned... :D

Remembered it was someone I knew
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-06-27 04:43:39
nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree, but, you survive well and Rikishi is in strong standing. caps are a pain at time, but, I again say, age is not a negative. Just merely a challenge.
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2006-06-29 05:58:42
Spence, maybe but the thing is I didn't want to retire in the first place and now with the aging thing, I'm forced to retire and receive the "massive" +1 legend "bonus" :S
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2006-06-29 06:28:42
Feel sorry for us multiple legends :(
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-06-29 23:48:26
heheh oh pooh no one going to feel sorry for the vets. It is assumed we know it all and can adjust to anything. :)
Post by: The Sniper(27754)
2006-07-30 01:31:18
I feel sorry for the Vets... after all that hard work and dedication along comes the message "You are rewarded with arthritus". Or at least it might as well be. Realistic though, and it does make the game more interesting as players now have a "Prime" to contend with.

I would say its a bonus, but an annoying bonus :)
Post by: denzil(82151)
2006-07-30 21:30:25
games get better with age. so the ageing tool is in. no point moning. it has fixed lots of problems. i see the game with its new add ons as a better game now. its fairer and does not pander to the masive exp chars. if ppl dont like the changes they can always vote with there feet. eg leave the game. some players have. So no point moning on this.
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2006-08-01 07:59:37
Hmmm maybe shifting it back a little bit would have been better so that PGs have a chance to use aerial moves before their stat gets shattered. If a PG was to try and buy all the aerial moves in one go at 5600 exp having bought all the other moves, it would cost somewhere around $150k, money not many players have or will ever get. What will VOW lose by putting the cap back a few hundred exp (maybe putting it at 6000 exp - a nice round number) so it allows players to see the full potential of their wrestler(s).

Remember that I have no experience of PGs and the aging cap, so I'm putting forward a view from "outside the box" or so to speak.
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-08-02 00:42:57
I believe a PG can effectively buy the aerials before and after 5600 exp. Just takes some budgeting and lot of patience in the long run...:)
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2006-08-02 06:06:09
I still haven't bought any aerial moves o.o Can't see the point buying them when my aerial stat is at 13 max...
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2006-08-04 08:06:28
"I believe a PG can effectively buy the aerials before and after 5600 exp. Just takes some budgeting and lot of patience in the long run...:)"

They can buy them, but how effective are they? To be honest Spence, we're both in the same boat as we've never reached this point with a PG. With all other styles it's fine because you can use aerial moves effectively.

I mean, most styles can use the aerial moves, and be safe in the knowledge that they have these extra moves in reserve; whereas a PG has a choice: buy aerial and get countered, buy weak moves and force their prices up, or just do nothing.
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-08-04 12:21:31
Ok LK, I see your point but do we really want to see a PG who can fly? The damage might be a dangerous for all involved..:) Imagine a flying Rikishi? Scarey!! I do get your point, that a PG should be all they can be, but, once again, we are limited by two things- Our desire to take risks or the gods of the system.
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2006-08-05 21:09:14
I know what you mean. The whole idea of a PG is to be vertically based and beat down the opponent. But saying that, should aerialists be submission masters?
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-08-06 06:51:05
LK-- of course, Aerialists can be submissions masters like a Stiff neck , Tech, or Trad. Yet, you have to build them for such as give them best aerials you need. I guess this thread has moved from far my Efed idea..:)
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2006-08-08 18:30:23
Haha, I know. Blame Rikishi for that :D
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2006-08-08 23:53:01
Huh? o_O I didn't start the talk about PG's and buiyng aerials...
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2006-08-09 21:02:06
I mean Ray for talking about aging... need to buy some glasses :D
Post by: yar(35506)
2006-08-11 01:19:00
Hey its not my fault, i dont like change lol. I just bought a new pair of selective glasses that way i can select what i want to see lol



Post by: ocelot(76)
2006-08-11 02:02:48
I have to admit, I was very disturbed when the news of aging and stat cap first came up, but if that didnt happen I wouldnt have the char I now have. Saying that, now I fear about the aging and stat cap even more this time around.

Getting back to the subject, a built an E-fed would open of a ton of doors. But its safe to say its not worth the risk. People cant even maintain over half the E-Feds that already exist.

And as PG's with the aerial problem, I suggest you specialize the strongest of them, that way theyll either benefit you, or theyll be out of the way most of the time :)
Post by: yadlow2005(86957)
2006-08-13 04:50:55
Oce,
With respect to the PG using aerials, have you seen this done first hand?

Post by: yar(35506)
2006-08-13 13:55:13
Inregards to a high flying pg i have made a pg that will be buying aerial moves right out of the gate to see how bad it could be, to early to tell, but i have my doubts rofl
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2006-08-14 18:46:43
Ask Benoit about highflying PGs :)
Post by: The Sniper(27754)
2006-08-20 22:29:02
In all honesty I think the positioning of the Age Cap is about right. In real life a wrestler has so much he can learn before his "bump card" catches up with him. Nobody really ever learns every move in wrestling.

I guess a wrestler whose stats are waning while he learns the rest of the moves gives him someing in return for his old age

I myself in real life probably will not learn a 450 splash or a shooting star, there are things you can learn and things you can't. However not being able to buy all the moves would be cack so the age cap represents your wrestler at his best. Take a picture :)
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