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Thread: Is this normal?
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-02 23:52:14
Ive joined this game, and detached. I waited 5 days, and now i joined again.

In my first match, against a guy at my level(0 fame, 0 experiance), the following happened:

Cabbana smashes Shinning Dragon head into the turnbuckle

1!

2!

3!

4!

5!

6!

7!

8!

9!

10!

He's stumbling around like a drunk!

Cabbana tosses Shinning Dragon for 5 damage!

Cabbana tries to make a Punch.
But Shinning Dragon counters for 1 damage.
Whoa! Close call there!

Cabbana makes an incredible Elbow drop for 5 damage.
Shinning Dragon is left twitching on the mat!

Cabbana makes a stupendous Kick for 3 damage.

Shinning Dragon tries to make a Elbow drop.
But Cabbana counters for 3 damage.
I bet he's glad he got out of that one!

Shinning Dragon tries to make a Arm Drag Takedown.
But Cabbana counters for 2 damage.
Whoa! Close call there!

Cabbana grabs Shinning Dragon by the throat and slams him down for 3 damage.

This is going quick, at least we won't waste your time.

Cabbana makes Shoulder Tackle for 2 damage.

Shinning Dragon is on the ground not moving, the ref counts

1..

2..

3..

4..

Shinning Dragon makes it to his feet and breaks the refs counts.

Cabbana makes Shoulder Tackle for 1 damage.

Cabbana grabs Shinning Dragon by the throat and slams him down for 24 damage.

This time he is down for good. The Ref Counts:

1..

2..

3..

4..

5..

6..

7..

8..

9..

10


I mean..............isnt 24 damage a bit to much for first match?
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-07-02 23:53:39
NO. It's called a SPECIALISED MOVE
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-02 23:56:18
Specialized move? What do you mean. Specialized moves arent those ones that i have to create?



And if you check, you will notice that first, "Cabbana grabs Shinning Dragon by the throat and slams him down for 3 damage", like a normal move, but then "Cabbana grabs Shinning Dragon by the throat and slams him down for 24 damage", wich is a big diference.


Edit: by specialized, you mean "Stiff Neck" move?
Post by: The Legend Killer(21778)
2005-07-02 23:58:21
NO (stupid noobs). Specialised moves are moves that do up to 15 more damage than the normal version. Chokeslam can do up to 26 damage.... ah whats the point, it goes in one ear and out the other
Post by: Danny Blade(82684)
2005-07-03 00:19:02
...and why did you wait 5 days before joining again?
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-03 00:25:03
The max it can reach is 26? You mean that in my first match i made 24 damage with this move, and a SSWO using Chockslam will make, in the best result, 26 damage?

Lol, i asked "I mean..............isnt 24 damage a bit to much for first match?", and you answered in all your magnificence " NO. It's called a SPECIALISED MOVE".

Now, tell me, how da hell this answer my question?

Then you said, after calling me stupid n00b. "Chokeslam can do up to 26 damage".

You still dont understand my point? Let me explain you in the most simple way i can.

HOW DA HELL DID I MADE 24 DAMAGE, IF IM A LAW, A ZERO EXPERIENCE LAW, AND A SSWO WILL MAKE 26 DAMAGE?!?!

You still dont understand my point? Well, let me explain it a bit more.

ITS ONLY 2 POINTS OF DAMAGE DIFERENCE, ALTHOUGH THE DIFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND A SSWO ARE 2000 POINTS OF EXPERIENCE!!!

You are trying to tell me that 24 damage isnt to much? I didnt ask you if this is normal in the game to happen. I believe now that it happens more times, but for god sake open your eyes and see that if i can make so much damage as a SSWO, something is wrong, dont you think?

Or maybe im missing something. If thats so, its your fault that couldnt come with a decent post to answer my simple question so far.

Lol, and you call me stupid n00b. You might not be a n00b, but hell i bet a n00b would understand my quesiton.

Even a n00b would come with a more decent and creative nickname then yours. Lol, "Legend Killer" sounds to much like what Randy Orton calls himself.

So, you are a veteran that cant understand the most simple question, without a bit of imagination to create his own nick, without having to copy it from somewhere else.

But wait..........veterans dont born "like that"! All veterans have already been n00bs. That means that, apart from being a n00b in the past, like everybody else, you also had(and still have) a big problem with imagination, and to resolve problems.

Lol, i can imagine a guy asking you "what is a ladder match?", and again, you for being so wise, asnwering "its a match that involves a ladder stupid n00b!!

My advice........grew up. i know it will be hard, specially for you, but in the end people will start to look at you with other eyes.

Ive more things to do then to discuss with you. I want my question to be answered, and you cant do it. so plz dont crap this thread again.

Go away kid.........go.
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-03 00:34:14
"and why did you wait 5 days before joining again?"

Because the followgin message appear:

"Please note that you will not be able to join any SC and GW game for 5 days after you have detached one of these games. This is because the detach option is being abused by some players."

I didnt realize that only Space Conquest and Gang War players had to wait, cuz i clicked to detach "VOW". Just today when i was going to detach all other game acounts i realized that the same message appeared to every game........and after reading it carefully i realized that it didnt include VOW.

I wasnt able to play int he last days anyway, so it wasnt a big deal
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-03 00:51:45
I found the answer myself. And it is very simple Killer. You just had to say.

"the damage you inflict changes acording to the experience of the opponent".

In real life, that doesnt really matter. Expericence is always conected with atack characteristics, and not defending ones. By this i mean that a more experienced guy, if suffers a punch in the face will loose his teeths, like a non-experience guy. It is not related to the opponent experience, but with the atacker experience, that has a strong punch.

So, if i have 0 experience, and my oponent 0 experience, the normal to happen would be to inflict few damage to each other.

The game doesnt translate reality. The conection that this game makes with reality, is the following:

2 babys fighting = 2 kickboxer fighting.

what i mean is that in this game 2 zero experienced guys will inflict to the oponent the same amount of damage has a 200 vs 200 experience or a 2000 vs 2000 experience.(it doesnt only depend on experience, i know).

Ofcourse this is not true in reality. using the same example as above, 2 babys fighting cant inflict very damage to each other( but in this game 2 zero experienced guys can), and 2 kickboxers can inflict very damage to each other.

In this game, the following happens:

(1)LAW 0 experienced vs (2)LAW 0 experienced

PLayer 1 inflicts 24 damage to the opponent.

(3)SSWO player vs(2) LAW 0 experienced

Player 3 inflicts 26 damage to the oppoent.

Being the opponent the same, and with the atacking players having a diference of 2000 experience, its wierd that the SSWO only inflicts 2 more damage then the LAW player.
Passing this to reality, its like saying

(1)Baby vs (2)baby

Baby one kicked baby's two ass with all his strenght(24)

(3)Kickboxer vs (2) baby

Kickboxer kicked baby's two ass with all his strenght(26)

Ofcourse that a kickboxer is much stronger then a baby.

I hope you understand my point.
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-07-03 02:13:03
1) what the hell are you talking about



2) he called himself legend killer before randy orton was called that.



3) plz shut the hell up


4) u can also do 26 damage with the chokeslam sswo dont do more damage but he has more chance of doing the move more often
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-03 04:06:21
"u can also do 26 damage with the chokeslam sswo dont do more damage but he has more chance of doing the move more often"

well thank you but ive noticed it by myself, cuz none of you arrongant "veterans" told that early and decently.

"he called himself legend killer before randy orton was called that."

LOOOOOOOOL. Man, dont you find a bit coincidence that a guy, playing a wrestling game, calls himself the same as a real wreslter(not real wrestler..........american wrestler....an actor)

Where are you from? Australia or something? I bet theres a delay of something like 4 months where you live in.

"what the hell are you talking about"

Something.........a bit to hard for an insane clown to understand.

"plz shut the hell up"........seems your arguments are a bit limited. So i think you should shut the hell up kid.

By the way, i used a very simple vocabulary in the last post. My purpose was to guys like you to understand it. But it seems that its still to hard to get.
Post by: Brian Allan(45150)
2005-07-03 05:26:01
Experience has nothing to do with actual damage inflicted in matches. Experience has more to do with your stats than anything else, since experience allows you to increase your stats every so often. Stats themselves have no effect on damage whatsoever, the stats determine how often you hit moves of a certain type. For example, you'll see an aerialist attempting much more aerial moves than say a tech who's at the same experience because their aerial stat is significantly higher than the tech's aerial stat.

Now, as far as damage goes it's random on how well you hit moves in your matches, and alot of the un-specialized aerial moves will hit around 10+ damage or so more often than not when you hit them well as their base damage is up around there.

The chokeslam your opponent hit you with was a specialized version of it. Special moves work in the same way your normal moves work. You'll have times when you'll hit your special or normal move for that matter very poorly which results in much less damage like 3 or 4. When you actually specialize a move you're adding on a potential 15 damage modifier to that moves base damage. Your opponent hit you with a great special which resulted in that 24 damage, and he hit you with a poor one which hit for 3 damage which was already pointed out.

Again, I'll say that your experience has nothing to do with the damage you inflict. The damage you hit is random, and more often than not you'll see a Power Grappler hit for good damage since their style advantage is a damage modifier. If you specialize a slap with a base damage of 1, then a great hit with that very specialized move will result in 16 or so damage. Poor hits can still, and will hit for 1 damage.

That should clear it up.
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-07-03 07:48:15
i am from england actually and i was here when he first started the game and randy orton wasent out of ovw yet so not called legend killer at this time.



i have been suspended 5 times so yes my arguments are limited because i dont want a 6th suspention to be wasted on you.



i did not see this post before u said the answer as i have been away from the game.



and if u think i am dumb because of my name you have serious issues mate


And i have been playing this game for 1 year and 6 months so i dont know why i am talking to somebody like you
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2005-07-03 21:55:29
LOL this was funny to read ^_^

(I've got nothing else to say :P)
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-03 22:57:21
Insane........you make absolutely no sense.You said:

"i have been suspended 5 times so yes my arguments are limited because i dont want a 6th suspention to be wasted on you" and "And i have been playing this game for 1 year and 6 months so i dont know why i am talking to somebody like you" Ok................so why da hell did you appear here and entered the discussion?!?!? I didnt called you, you appeared here cuz you wanted to!

Thx Allan.....but it wasnt my opponent that hit me with Chokeslam. It was me who hit "Shinning Dragon" with the Chokeslam.
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-07-04 00:03:07
no i came here because i couldnt stand watching another noob wasting space in the forum.
Post by: Kueller(13231)
2005-07-04 01:47:33
:)

I love it... keep it up guys
Post by: Lincoln(27675)
2005-07-04 10:32:49
Get used to it... VOW is odd! It's no big deal.
Post by: gatcholio(28366)
2005-07-05 00:05:28
NintheydytX

It seems strange to me that someone that is new to the game would come onto the forum and take a hostile stance against the veterans of the game. Calm down.
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2005-07-05 02:42:40
LOLZ, thanks for the laughs again NinterX ^_^

=)
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-07-05 03:03:24
:D
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-05 07:19:05
I dint take an hostile stance. I came here with a doubt and somebody called me "stupid n00b" for not knowing something, that in some way i already should know. Not stupid........just n00b.
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-07-05 10:45:32
and to wrap it up he is a stupid noob, end of thread we can all go home and have our dinner now.
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-05 18:02:09
I already went home and had my dinner a long time ago.....And guess who was there preparing it for me?...........Your momma and sister.

Now, or your know how to cook(wich i doubt), or there is no point in goin home.

You ask me what were they doing there?....................damn, if at least this forum didnt had rules i would give you a memorandum with complete details about it. And believe me, it would break any records set by "White Snow and the 7 black giant.....", on the business.

Oh man..................stop, i cant do this anymore! Why are you doing this to yourself!?! Why do you make me do this things!!! My profane vocabulary is fully composed, but yours seems to be reduced to "stupid n00b". There's no point in continuing this discussion.

I advice you to leave this discussion with the quote "I quit. Im not going to continue this discussion with a stupid n00b!!". Some people might believe that indeed you dont want to continue, although you do, you just dont know what to say anymore. And if you dont use this advice, you are only going to get deeper in the sand.Dont forget that your "veteranism" is only related with this game.

Don't try to win an argument against somebody on law school.........Only if you are a lawyer yourself.
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-07-05 19:26:50
For somebody trying to act smart just then, The fact you made a joke about my mum and sister is very sad as it shows you cant do any better. And yes it wouldnt suprise me if my mum was there.



And the reason i am saying stupid noob is because its the truth, ok wait um amazingly dumb noob?? is that any better for ya?? you happy now??



"And if you dont use this advice, you are only going to get deeper in the sand.Dont forget that your "veteranism" is only related with this game. "



Now why the hell would i want to listen to you, get deeper in the sand ooook if you so say so, mate can you tell me what drugs you are on because they seem like there are a good laugh.



Peace...

Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-05 19:40:43
"For somebody trying to act smart just then, The fact you made a joke about my mum and sister is very sad as it shows you cant do any better. And yes it wouldnt suprise me if my mum was there."

Lol, now you turned to a missionary or something? You entered here joking, thinking that the situation was under your control and now you see that it isnt and you come with a load of moral s***!!! You must be kidin me right?

You should have shame on you! Dont ever expect respect if you dont give it in the first place man! Specially if you are a "veteran"! You should give the example n not behave like an a**hole!

Get lost. You are a shame to yourself and you only give a bad image of english youngs.

End
Post by: Compaq(76990)
2005-07-05 21:11:11
I'm nice so I'm gona forget all other posts:

Ive joined this game, and detached. I waited 5 days, and now i joined again.

In my first match, against a guy at my level(0 fame, 0 experiance), the following happened:

Cabbana smashes Shinning Dragon head into the turnbuckle

1!

2!

3!

4!

5!

6!

7!

8!

9!

10!

He's stumbling around like a drunk!

Cabbana tosses Shinning Dragon for 5 damage!

Cabbana tries to make a Punch.
But Shinning Dragon counters for 1 damage.
Whoa! Close call there!

Cabbana makes an incredible Elbow drop for 5 damage.
Shinning Dragon is left twitching on the mat!

Cabbana makes a stupendous Kick for 3 damage.

Shinning Dragon tries to make a Elbow drop.
But Cabbana counters for 3 damage.
I bet he's glad he got out of that one!

Shinning Dragon tries to make a Arm Drag Takedown.
But Cabbana counters for 2 damage.
Whoa! Close call there!

Cabbana grabs Shinning Dragon by the throat and slams him down for 3 damage.

This is going quick, at least we won't waste your time.

Cabbana makes Shoulder Tackle for 2 damage.

Shinning Dragon is on the ground not moving, the ref counts

1..

2..

3..

4..

Shinning Dragon makes it to his feet and breaks the refs counts.

Cabbana makes Shoulder Tackle for 1 damage.

Cabbana grabs Shinning Dragon by the throat and slams him down for 24 damage.

This time he is down for good. The Ref Counts:

1..

2..

3..

4..

5..

6..

7..

8..

9..

10


I mean..............isnt 24 damage a bit to much for first match?

No Exp and Fame dosen't affect anything at all damage wise.

So if Exp and Fame dosen't affect anything at all then that means 24 dmg can happen. This game like all other games isn't realistic (Althrough in Pro-Wrestling and althrough it's fake it's what this game's based on, sometimes when a heel debutes they do their special) so anything can happen.

Your stats such as str does not increase damage. All it does is increase the chance that it'll preform at it's max (So it can't do more than it's max unless you specialize it) and how often it'll be preformed.

That guy baisicly specialized Chokeslam and therefore he can luckily get it out and do 24. Exp and Fame have nothing to do with it. This game is about stats and moves and luck. He had luck and that can happen (And happens often actually.)

Now please tell me your wrestler's Id cause right now the way you talked to everyone here I should give you a beating in game and if possible in real life. Respect your elders and peers.
Post by: insane clown(11577)
2005-07-05 21:13:59
Oh come on plz i was expecting for you to finish it better than that. Have another go at me see if you can do better this time.

Alot of people respect me for all i have done for this game. So can u follow up the facts of who i am before u critize me.

Peace..
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-05 22:19:38
My ID is 55874.

"Alot of people respect me for all i have done for this game. So can u follow up the facts of who i am before u critize me."

No i cant. That makes absolutly no sense. Its like saying that jews should love and respect Hitler like most germans for what he did for germany. I might end up respecting you, but only if you learn how to respect me.
Your comments toward me were:

"Stupid n00b"
"shut da hell up"
"wot da hell are you talkin about"

It wasnt me who started it, but you. You wanted me to hear and acept this just for being a n00b in the game?!?

People must be completly biased to give you reason. My behaviour then drop to your level. Usually people say: "dont do to others what you dont like to be done to you". Well, in my opinion we should "do to others what they do to you or worst".I just answered in the same coin. I think its fair. Dont you?

There's no need in continuing this discussion. Im stoping right here. You can comment if you want, but i wont post anything else regarding you or killer on this thread.

Peace
Post by: slangi(11441)
2005-07-06 01:16:39
somewhere out there an english/grammar teacher is crying...
Post by: Crosson(37742)
2005-07-06 01:38:43
tsenn, i imagine there are two out there crying... :)

And I agree with KOVOW.....
Post by: NinterX(106306)
2005-07-06 01:40:08
English is not my main language.
Post by: slangi(11441)
2005-07-06 02:22:37
what can i say its my specialty to give them grey hair by the time theyre 30
Post by: Crosson(37742)
2005-07-06 07:42:02
tsenn i think i'm getting grays in already and i'm not much past 21. :)
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