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Thread: VWO Tournaments
Post by: provost(25123)
2006-02-11 09:36:32
Good to see the changes have evened up the battles at the top end . All five VWO Tournament belts held by the one guy is a big improvement over one guy holding four.
Post by: Limerick(56750)
2006-02-11 10:13:45
Yup. I noticed that as well...looks like Brian Allan is going to be owning us all for the rest of our VOW lives...
Post by: lazy(27024)
2006-02-11 11:33:08
Post by: BubbaG(33460)
2006-02-11 13:20:52
Ironic isn't it. Here is what Peter stated in the Changes Thread

"Problems we are trying to solve:
- Someone holds 3+ belts in a league for a extended period of time

- God like characters in a league."


Post by: Coneman(325)
2006-02-11 14:07:19
You'll never fix either of those if someone doesn't retire..
Post by: Brian Allan(45150)
2006-02-11 15:15:09
"Ironic isn't it. Here is what Peter stated in the Changes Thread

"Problems we are trying to solve:
- Someone holds 3+ belts in a league for a extended period of time

- God like characters in a league."


Yes... we all know you're still peeved that the legend bonuses got reduced, but that's still no reason to start complaining about "god like characters" when you were one yourself, only that was greatly reduced once the changes came through. There's no point in going on about people that don't retire. Yes, I made the right decision by not doing it in the first place it seems, and the great reduction in the legend bonus just proves that.

We've established that retiring really means nothing with the new changes, and I also agree that it was a cop out as far as Peter goes with the reductions on the bonuses. However, that's still no reason on punishing the people that *choose* not to retire. We earned the right to be above average wrestlers within VOW with the hard work that we did put in. I'm not unbeateable, anybody can really tell ya that.
Post by: Syrjis(80123)
2006-02-11 23:09:27
BA is right. He's not unbeatable.

Brian Allan(17178) Wins: 10
Rikishi(36320) Wins: 4


Oh... and reducing the number of wrestlers needed for tourney to start from 8 to 4 would have rocked...
Post by: BubbaG(33460)
2006-02-12 00:45:23
Brian I agreed with reducing the Legend Bonus, but also with the addition of Aging feature. One without the other is pointless. The changes that were implemented have just made the situation worse.

Yeah I agree that forcing people into retirement sucks. But unfortunately either the game continues on its downward spiral or changes needed to be made for the overall good of the game (at the detriment of some individuals).
Post by: lazy(27024)
2006-02-12 02:13:24
BG-you could've not retired.

Post by: Kueller(13231)
2006-02-12 04:16:36
Actually, retirement was introduced as an incentive to get me and Bubba to retire. If we hadnt retired, something else would have been thought up.

As for the current problem - I agree that some things about the changes dont work out. The biggest problem is that BA has some 30 finishers or so, which is basically the same thing as a +3 dmg bonus. Noone should be able to have that many finishers. Limit it to 10 or so (by sheer price of the damn things) and bobs your uncle
Post by: Fangblast(13923)
2006-02-12 10:09:23
hows that going to work when brian already has over 10 finishers, take them away from him ! :)
peter should just add age. brian should already be long dead by now. maybe instead of having age on the wrestlers stats page just make their stats start to decrease after some point. i dont like the thought of being able to see wrestlers ageing at different speeds.
or hows about a big restart? :) no bonuses for players or nothing, screw them all! maybe keep the old vow, and slowly let them fade away while everyone enjoys the new one. (please no buying of ap in the new vow PLEASE it sucks!)
or scrap tournaments in VWO so it becomes totally pointless being there.
Post by: lazy(27024)
2006-02-12 10:11:23
No, no big restart, maybe a modified version of VOW though, that is because of the people donating in their guys.

Extra VOW.
Post by: Fangblast(13923)
2006-02-12 10:30:22
ok, hows about a new vow which restarts every 6 months or so. keep a leader board of top players from each vow season. (keep the old vow too of course though)
i'd love to think about a modified vow but its not going to happen, we waited so long for changes and all we got is the crapp LMS and table matches, and now these little changes to try and make vow more fair.
Post by: lazy(27024)
2006-02-12 12:33:09
Yeah, this VOW we can test changes and such.
Post by: Kueller(13231)
2006-02-12 18:50:09
and why not take away half of BA's finishers?
Post by: Kueller(13231)
2006-02-12 21:09:16
To even things out a little:

- increase the finisher prices dramatically. Goal should be:
5th finisher : 25000 $
10th finisher: 100000 $
15th finisher: 200000 $
20th finisher: 400000 $

(Min Prices)

- as part of the implementation, everyone loses 1/2 of their finishers (this requires a little programing effort, but I'm sure you're up to it)
Post by: lazy(27024)
2006-02-13 00:43:59
You guys use cheat codes, you guys should beat BA with them :)

Problem solved.
Post by: Brian Allan(45150)
2006-02-13 02:39:23
It won't work. I'm above the cheat codes which is why Bubba and Scorp are banding together to hold me down with other options apparently.
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